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Title: Do You Make This Trade?
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Vladfan - November 14, 2008 02:05 PM (GMT)
Get ready to hurl the rotten fruit.....

I hear the Brewers might consider moving Prince Fielder for a starting pitcher.

I'd offer Chris Tillman and Brian Roberts for Prince Fielder....and I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Any ideas?

Be as brutally honest as you want.

:)

Bark - November 14, 2008 02:08 PM (GMT)
I'd trade any pitcher they wanted and Brian Roberts for Prince Fielder. Hell I'd throw in D-Cab.

stanhouse - November 14, 2008 02:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vladfan @ Nov 14 2008, 09:05 AM)
Be as brutally honest as you want.

Unless a team is planning on contending within the next 2 years or so, Prince Fielder won't help them. He gets more unhealthy each year. I was hoping vegetarianism would assist him in losing significant weight but the opposite happened this year. He's following his dad's career course, I fear.

Career200 - November 14, 2008 02:27 PM (GMT)
Images of the Little Dutch Boy putting his finger in one hole in the dam just to see another hole spring open comes to mind. So does the old adage about cuting off one's nose to spite his face.

Tillman is an important player for the O's. That can't be underestimated.

I think what gets lost in these fantasy trade discussions is the value of the players involved to their respective organizations.

EDIT: In fact, any good pitching is important to the O's. Why? Because they don't have much of it at any level.

Career200 - November 14, 2008 02:42 PM (GMT)
Actually, this raises the point that Milwaukee is a pretty interesting team to watch his winter. I have no idea what they are going to do, especially if they spend a lotof their resources in re-signing Sabathia. I think they could really use another bat in their lineup and add to their bullpen depth if they want to contend.

Vladfan - November 14, 2008 02:53 PM (GMT)
Good points, one and all.

:)

Milto - November 14, 2008 03:03 PM (GMT)
Fielder had an off-year statistically speaking from 07. Still a very good year. A Huff-like year?
Not sure the Brewers want a 2B, they seem convinced every year will be the year of Weeks.

The O's desperately need more pop. It sounds like an interesting fishing expedition.

HotTubMan - November 14, 2008 07:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vladfan @ Nov 14 2008, 10:05 AM)
Get ready to hurl the rotten fruit.....

I hear the Brewers might consider moving Prince Fielder for a starting pitcher.

I'd offer Chris Tillman and Brian Roberts for Prince Fielder....and I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Any ideas?

Be as brutally honest as you want.

:)

No I wouldn't make that trade. The O's don't need an overweight soon to be DH on their team while not having any pitching. Even the stats that Fielder puts up wouldn't be worth what our leadoff hitter has done.

Solo HR or team speed, good on base percentage and a possible number #1 starter?

I'll take the latter.

Sluggo - November 14, 2008 08:18 PM (GMT)
I grow weary of the phrase "clubhouse cancer." Perhaps Jack or Andrew could help me formulate a new alliterative. For now, let's just say Fielder is the "Anti-Millar" in ways both positive and negative. Except that they're both fat, of course.

I wouldn't want to see the organization give away any promising pitching prospects at this point in the process. Maybe Liz, but definitely not Tillman.

Skipjack - November 14, 2008 11:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sluggo @ Nov 14 2008, 04:18 PM)
I grow weary of the phrase "clubhouse cancer."

Team Tumor?
Locker-room Lesion?
Club Chancre?
Polarizing Pustule?
Organizational Offal?
Roster Rotweiler?

Sluggo - November 14, 2008 11:53 PM (GMT)
"Club Chancre?"

:lol:

Vladfan - November 14, 2008 11:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Skipjack @ Nov 14 2008, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (Sluggo @ Nov 14 2008, 04:18 PM)
I grow weary of the phrase "clubhouse cancer."

Team Tumor?
Locker-room Lesion?
Club Chancre?
Polarizing Pustule?
Organizational Offal?
Roster Rotweiler?

How about 'Malcontent Melanoma'?

:lol:

Milto - November 15, 2008 12:16 AM (GMT)
Organizational Ulcer
Dugout Downer
Asshole

Skipjack - November 15, 2008 10:44 AM (GMT)
I like Club Chancre. It sounds like a Club Med but it's a resort where maybe you don't really want to get "lucky." Phonetically Club Chancre sounds like a place to go to hear sitar music. Phonetically it also sounds like a golf club that makes contact with the hosel instead of the blade.

Some other non-alliterative terms and constructions for "clubhouse cancer:"
"some guys are the straws that stir the drink and others just piss in the punchbowl."
"if a team is like a table set for a gourmet meal this guy is a fork n' knife."
"if the clubhouse, as a body, needed an enema he is where you'd insert the tube."

If Beane flips Holliday for a couple of players and one of them doesn't turn out is that player a Flip Flop? :rimshot:


Sluggo - November 15, 2008 02:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Skipjack @ Nov 15 2008, 05:44 AM)
If Beane flips Holliday for a couple of players and one of them doesn't turn out is that player a Flip Flop? :rimshot:

Unless Felipe Lopez is in the deal, in which case it's called a "flip-for-FLop".

Milto - November 15, 2008 02:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sluggo @ Nov 15 2008, 10:10 AM)
QUOTE (Skipjack @ Nov 15 2008, 05:44 AM)
If Beane flips Holliday for a couple of players and one of them doesn't turn out is that player a Flip Flop? :rimshot:

Unless Felipe Lopez is in the deal, in which case it's called a "flip-for-FLop".

:lol: Hellova point Sluggo.

And if it is Felipe Lopez and JR House involved, it would be called Flip-FLopHouse
If Paul Byrd is involved, would Beane be getting flipped the Byrd?




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